Sometimes, people do things that make me realise just how deep our legs have sunk into the concrete. (Before you click the jump-link, know that I will be using the phrases “house nigger” and “autistic house nigger” a few times towards the end. I do not use these words lightly, but I do ask you to brace yourself and consider their context if you want to scream at me about it when you get done reading.)
Recently, Jerry Seinfeld, the arrogant little asshole who starred in a show named after him for years and basically made people with brains everywhere want to die, proclaimed himself autistic.
That is, he said he had diagnosed himself.
Now, at this article written by one Rachel Kenyon, the author defends Seinfeld’s self-diagnosis. But she does so very wrongly. She ignores entirely the feelings that autistic people who knew they were autistic in the mid-2000s have towards Seinfeld. She quotes a bunch of people who say the kinds of things that make autistic people incredibly angry because we usually have more than just our own word to go on, and in so doing goes over a line that makes me not only angry at Seinfeld himself but her in the bargain.
First, a little background is in order.
Jerry Seinfeld has done PR things for Autism Speaks For Normie Assholes. I know this because in the mid-2000s, I was pointed to a video that was briefly made available on YouChoob in which Seinfeld was going into a venue to do some kind of speech-dinner-thing for Autism Speaks For Normie Assholes. Along the way, the man holding the camera asked Seinfeld questions. I forget the exact wordings, but Seinfeld was informed that autistic people do not want Autism Speaks For Normie Assholes to exist, that ASFNA promote abuse and murder of the autistic, that children have already been murdered by ASFNA.
“Yeah, okay,” etc, dismissive, as if the speaker were telling him what a big stupid fukkhead he is. That was the sum total of Seinfeld’s response as he walked through a door and out of the camera’s view.
I cannot even begin to describe how angry that made me. Bashing my male parental unit’s head in with a five-kilo dumbbell would not have alleviated it. Hell, bashing Seinfeld’s head in with the same dumbbell would not have done the trick. I was pissed off like RoboCop.
I find it curious that Mister Seinfeld has at no point in his self-diagnosis publicity stunt felt compelled to apologise for that.
I also find it very curious that he has diagnosed himself. I have less money on hand than he wipes his arrogant little arse with, yet I have been diagnosed not once, not twice, but at least five times over by people who each possess at least one PhD. and thus have done and successfully defended doctoral dissertations.
To say that Seinfeld could easily go to Tony Attwood (whom I have been diagnosed by), Isabelle Hénault (ditto), or any third party they agree is sufficient in expertise concerning autism to be taken seriously, and get a yes or no in stone-cold writing, is redundant. I doubt that he will do this, however. You see, Seinfeld’s media excursions beyond a show about a group of morons acting like assholes have not been so successful. In fact, other than that show with his name on it, I defy you to even name three things he has done since his on-air exercise in narcissism went off the air sixteen years ago.
The residuals are drying up, so he had to think of a cloy for attention. That was his answer. Hey, Jackass Jerry, did you think everyone on the plant would forget you talking down at an autistic activist like he is a piece of shit whilst they were trying to get you to just listen for a minute to the fact that you were doing something very harmful to us?
I commented on Rachel’s article as soon as I saw it this morning. It has been more than a day, more than enough time in America to arouse suspicion about her not wanting to hear me, that I decided I am going to reproduce every one of my comments to her in this article. I think that this will also serve to make clear what I think of Seinfeld’s latest ploy for attention.
Uh, yes, I actually DO hear myself, Rachel, and very clearly.
I will get this out of the way first because I think you do not understand its implications. Jerry Seinfeld has gone and given his time and effort to Autism Speaks (For Normie #@$holes, as I like to add). He has gone to fundraisers, told people out there we would like to be cured, and the whole nine yards.
I am not a “mother of” or even “father of”. I am autistic. I have suffered terribly during my childhood for being autistic, and continue to suffer as an adult because the concept of compensatory remediation or justice seems utterly lost on the society I live in. I am autistic, Rachel, so where do you get off quoting people who are clearly not autistic and calling them the autism community? That said, there are a few possibilities concerning Mister Seinfeld and his “self diagnosis”.
One, and this is the one that comes to mind first, he is doing this for attention. His crappy, narcissistic show is probably not paying the bills to the extent it once was, so this is an easy explanation to believe. When Daryl Hannah outed herself as being autistic, it was very easy to believe her because of her work on films like Splash or (most obvious of all) Blade Runner. Seinfeld has presented himself in front of the camera as nothing but an ___hole. And “hey, I am autistic, buy more of my books” is the kind of behaviour Powell types like me expect from such people.
It should also be noted that during his walk to the door to speak at an Autism Speaks FNA function, an autistic adult with a camera confronted him and asked him a lot of pointed questions about how aware he was of the visceral hatred ASFNA and autistic people have of each other. His dismissive, code for “I do not give a ____” answers spoke for themselves. So I say again, Rachel, I hear myself and quite clearly. You apparently do not hear Jerry or yourself very clearly at all.
Second, black Americans have an expression they use to describe black people who canoodle up to white supremacists and perpetuate the subjugation of black Americans. “House nigger”, they call such people. O.J. Simpson is one example of such a person, and Vincent Bugliosi spends an incredible amount of time in his description about how he would have prosecuted the Simpson trial just pointing out to the jury that Simpson’s attempts to gain sympathy in the black community should have been dismissed on that basis.
In the behaviour I outlined in point one, and in light of the behaviour in the video that I describe (and has long been “mysteriously” “lost”), even if Seinfeld’s claim that he is autistic is not spurious, he is the autistic equivalent of a house nigger. There is a precedent for calling people that, by the way. Robison being a strong example.
Finally, and this is sort of an extension of points one and two, people come forward all the time telling the world that they are autistic. I do it so often, in fact, that public transport staff feel obliged to warn customers that if they see me around, their comments concerning autism in any way should be kept to themselves. I am only kind of joking.
Seinfeld is not brave. He is simply cloying for attention. The people who go to Autism Speaks FNA rallies and say “I am autistic and you are not taking another step” (note: I am autistic, not “have autism” (which is basically the equivalent of “nigger” where my experience is concerned)) are brave. Seinfeld is at best exploiting our struggle for another dollar, and at worst trying to pull a fast one that is deliberately designed to hurt us.
Seinfeld has never apologised for his going to speak at ASFNA functions. He is of such a narcissistic, excremental character that I would not be surprised to learn of him going to their functions or sticking his face before a camera and proclaiming himself autistic before talking up ASFNA as if they were heroic. That is what I mean in my “at worst” just above.
I am a representative of the real autistic community. That is, people who really are autistic and want autistic people to no longer need to feel fear when they go outside. So when you ask the parents who themselves probably think ASFNA heroic if they hear themselves and label them the “autism community”, my compulsion, Rachel, is to ask you two things. Do _you_ hear _yourself_? And who the hell do you think you are?
(Regarding the above, Ms. Kenyon seems more than a little confused regarding who the “autism community” are. Her article is literally flooded with people saying “my child has the autismz!”, but I am racking my brain trying to find any evidence that she has allowed comment from any autistic people at all. This is why I point out above multiple times that concerning Seinfeld and autism, if anyone’s word contradicts mine, it is utterly worthless.)
The inevitable plea for the same “compassion” these asshats never show to their own children is made on Seinfeld’s behalf. So in response to Kenyon’s response to one such comment, I posted the following:
No, it is because as the comment I posted above (and apparently is still not “cleared” because the author of this article is afraid of what autistic people think) makes clear, Seinfeld has done many things that terminate any claim to compassion from autistic people.
Note that first of all, unlike the big parade of “parent, parent, parent”, you are talking to an actual autistic person here. My opinion matters because it is rooted in the fact of actually being autistic. If you are not autistic and your opinion contradicts mine, that makes your opinion worthless. That is how it works with autism.
Jerry Seinfeld did PR enough times for an organisation bent on murdering us all that we have a legitimate fear that he is going to start proclaiming himself autistic and saying “hey, I want to be murdered by Autism Speaks”, just to mess us over. That is, in fact, what I first thought when I read this.
I walk through every second of my life feeling like I am being sized up for murder and torture by the people around me. Every gaze feels hostile, every touch feels like the beginning of assault. Jerry Seinfeld’s actions helped in building that.
So as I have posted above and replicated on multiple Facebook pages so that people will know what I think of this, in summary:
- Unless you are autistic, your opinion concerning autism is worthless.
- Having an autistic child does not make you an authority on autism. It means you have an autistic child who will be well along the path of seeing you the way I do if they grow to adulthood witnessing this kind of behaviour from you.
- Jerry Seinfeld has flipped autistic people off thoroughly enough that “I am” is not desired anywhere near as much as “I want to sincerely apologise to”.
- People who are autistic, for the reasons I have outlined, want him to go away and stop using us.
- Jerry Seinfeld himself displays such narcissistic temperament, and has done in his insults to autistic people, that he has a long way to go before we would ever want to be associated with him.
- On that basis, there are plenty of other people who are not autistic whom we would rather have our cause championed by. Some do so without even meaning to by metaphorically telling our story on film.
- People dismiss the self-diagnosis of actual autistic people _all of the time_, when those autistic people have no PR or media things to gain from sharing their belief that they are autistic. If you think that Jerry Seinfeld should be any different on the basis of him being part of a show that people wish had never been on television, you clearly are not paying attention.
- Until Jerry Seinfeld sits down with Professor Anthony Attwood, Doctor Isabelle Hénault, and a third party that either of those agree to, and gets all three of them to agree that he is autistic, then I have no basis on which to believe his self-diagnosis. If you think I am being unfair, I have met those two, and four others besides, who all agree that I am autistic. So I am being only half as unfair to him as people have been to me (in reality, nowhere near that much).
This is why actual autistic people, not mooooooooommy and daaaaaaaddy, are telling Seinfeld what to go and do with himself.
Seinfeld is being dismissed by two sides of the autism war that hate each other enough to enact World Wars III through V upon each other. That alone should tell you a lot about the value of his self-diagnosis.
And I will keep circling around that point. Seinfeld has made enough money by wiggling his dick at an audience that has no mind of its own that he could afford to line up six real autism specialists in front of him for an assessment. Instead he just goes out in front of the cameras and tells us he is autistic.
This brings us to a point that I think anyone who is clever enough to fairly analyse the cultural war between ASFNA and autistic people will agree warrants consideration:
Rachel, this is at least the third rebuttal I have posted that your actions tell me you are afraid of.
I am an autistic person. I am old enough to understand the needs of autistic people, from childhood to adulthood. And merely being “able to understand a successful person being autistic” is a long way down the list.
Last year I posted an image of myself with text on it saying among other things “you refuse me my idols whilst automatically assigning me rapists and murderers”. That alone should give you pause for thought. I care not two figs for what “look at me I am the mommy of a boy with autismz!” has to say, but I care very deeply when someone like you refuses to accept that Daryl Hannah is autistic (I would be very interested in seeing your archives from that time, in fact).
And this is where we really get into brass tacks. Jerry Seinfeld gave PR to the organisation that is literally the spearhead of the “exterminate the autistic” movement. There was even a time when you could watch him as an autistic man with a camera tried to ask him why he is speaking at big dinners for that organisation. The way he spoke to that person asking him the questions, you would think he thought we should be disallowed from breathing the same air as he.
So I am going to tell you again, Rachel, that as an autistic adult who is used to being abused and being told he should be so happy to receive abuse, not only does Seinfeld’s self-diagnosis look incredibly suspicious to me, so too does your proclamation that we should all accept it at face value. I have made reference many times over to having been diagnosed by multiple people, including two people whose testimony to the effect that I am autistic would be regarded as “not reasonably subject to dispute” in a court of law. I do not even see twenty thousand dollars in a year. If Mister Seinfeld wants people he PRed for the eradication of during the previous decade to believe he is one of them, it behooves him to use his far better financial and connective resources to get qualified people to confirm it.
Because when I read your writings about the matter, or the “I am parent, my word counts more than autistic person’s” style of comments here, I feel very, very suspicious that six months from now he is going to start appearing in ads on TV proclaiming that he is autistic and wants to be cured. Which would be a position he is utterly alone in regarding autistic people who are actually allowed to speak for themselves.
Your words concerning the “autism community” really stink, Rachel. Because you seem to think that people at best biologically related to autistic people are the community. I am autistic, and therefore am far closer to being the community than anyone you have given voice to here. And I say that I have very real concerns about Seinfeld’s behaviour regarding autism that obfuscation and direction can only strengthen.
(Two things before I get to the point-point. In American law, there is a thing called “judicial notice” where something that has been demonstrated enough times over by sufficient evidence is automatically assumed to be fact. Holocaust survivor Mel Mermelstein took a collective of Holocaust deniers to court and a judge took “judicial notice” of the fact of the Holocaust. That is an example of what “not reasonably subject to dispute” means in legal circles. Such is the quality of Tony Attwood’s word concerning autism diagnosis that when he says a person is autistic after having sat with them for long enough to write a proper assessment, it is not reasonably subject to dispute.
Second, Kenyon seems far more concerned about what the “my baaaaaaby is tistic!” crowd think than actual autistic people. As in that is literally all she seems to have in commentary on her page.)
The point that a lot of people should think about, and this is a really scary thing, is Seinfeld’s motivation for telling the world that he is autistic.
I am not kidding. Go to your average autistic thirty-something (or even twenty-something, or, or) and float the following idea. Autism Speaks For Normie Assholes takes aside some celebrity one day and says to them “we want you to proclaim to the media that you are autistic, then six months from now, we want you to tell the same media that you want a cure”.
Sound outlandish? Well this is the thing about being autistic. Our ability to trust in people is inversely proportional to the extent of our interactions with people. What I have just proposed not only makes perfect sense to me, it would genuinely surprise me to not see it happen. When you bear in mind that the Wright family pours more money into PR for the extermination of the autistic than Australia has spent on mental healthcare, total, in a year, the idea of them offering Seinfeld tens or hundreds of millions of dollars to do the above is not merely plausible, it seems like an “of course”.
This is another reason why Seinfeld needs to subject himself to the same burden of evidence that I have been subjected to.
Oh yeah, and John Robison decided to stick his head in to comment. Because when you want to make an argument concerning any aspect of autism, Robison helps your credibility. (Fifty million pages of /sarcasm.) In response to him, I posted:
John, why do you not explain to miss Kenyon why autistic adults like me call you our version of the “house nigger”?
Given that “research” generally means “research into extermination” in the mass media, you also do your case no favours when proclaiming what you had to do to participate in it.
Miss Kenyon apparently wants only people who do not remember what it felt like to be told the equivalent of “I do not care, go and die” when we were asking Mister Seinfeld to stop promoting our genocide. Given that you sold out to the exact same organisation, Mister Robison, it behooves you to give a reason why we should believe you when you say the sky is blue.
As a man who has more “official” diagnoses from more doctors than most people see in a lifetime about the subject of autism, I am really starting to wonder if I have not stumbled onto a curebie’s blog here. In light of Seinfeld’s past behaviour in promoting the ostracism and violence against us, coupled with the fact that there are teenagers who have no idea who the hell he is, I think my questions both about his motives and his credibility are more than just valid.
I am going to say a fair bit here. I never like to use words lightly, or without consideration to their full meaning. Although it took me some time and aid to grok why a certain word in the above quite upsets and offends a lot of people, my use of it is quite serious and meant with full meaning.
Other people I can point to evidentiary examples of having people call them house niggers in the past include O.J. Simpson, a cop in Ferguson a video of which I shall post below for exemplary reasons, and Bill Cosby. I will keep this point short because I only need to say the following to make you understand why I am digging up this whole “autistic house nigger” thing. I would rather have my testicles ripped off and stuffed down my throat than be (rightly) compared to Bill Cosby.
So when I call John Elder Robison the autistic version of the house nigger, know this. The angry black people in that video were being calm and polite about calling that police officer a house nigger compared to what my feelings about John Elder Robison allow. I could call John Elder Robison the autistic house nigger whilst inflicting the kind of bodily injury people never recover from upon him, and do so with my conscience bothering me not one whit. It might indeed be the first night of my lifetime where I have slept like a baby without any Seroquel. So when I say that your “case” should send Robison running screaming, not prompt any kind of response even of a polite nature, understand my full meaning.
Jerry Seinfeld is apparently fixing himself up to do like Robison. At best, he is going to be the same kind of autistic house nigger. A little tamed autie who sucks up to the curebies for better treatment. At worst, he is going to perform the kind of collaboration with Autism Speaks For Normie Assholes that I have tried to nicely point out as a possibility to Kenyon. That is, he is in a certain interval of time going to proclaim “yay cure” and further our genocide that way.
If I could speak directly to Mister Seinfeld right now, I would tell him the following. Get written diagnoses from Attwood, Hénault, and at least one other person they agree with one another on. Put these online for every person in the world to see.
Apologise to the autistic for the PR work you did for Autism Speaks For Normie Assholes. (I really cannot emphasise that enough.)
Then, and only then, would angry Powell types who would be okay with destroying this planet if it meant no more normies be inclined to think this is anything more than a desperate ploy for attention. Or as I believe I have outlined very clearly above, something much, much worse.
Bobcat Goldthwait is right about you, by the way, Seinfeld. He is also much more convincing when he says that he is autistic, and I am not sure he has even tried to do that yet.
And now, in closing, I will repeat my question to Rachel Kenyon, and I would like an answer. You have presented a straw-man of people objecting to Seinfeld proclaiming himself autistic when he has far greater means to obtain evidence of same. You have falsely told us that such is the “autism community”. This makes you appear to be working against autistic people.
Who in the fukk do you think you are?
(And in closing, Ms. Kenyon, the image below says it all as far as I am concerned.)